Italians are very particular about which foods can go with which foods. For example, you will never find slices of garlic bread with a plate of lasagna. Why? Because both are carbohydrates and here in Italy, you don't eat carbs with carbs. The same is true about meat and pasta. Pasta is considered to be a first dish while meat is always serviced as a second dish. Please, NEVER try to mix the two. I did it once with disastrous results (I may be exaggerating a bit).
One morning I spent several hours making a dish that included a pine nut cream sauce over a bed of angel hair pasta and topped with grilled chicken and tomatoes. I had gotten the recipe from an authentic Italian cookbook (so it said) and spent the morning chopping, dicing, grilling, mixing and cooking. In the end, I had a fantastic lunch waiting for my husband when returned from work and, in my opinion, it was heavenly.
My husband looked at his plate and flatly said, "Why is the chicken on the top of the pasta?". And that is how I learned that Italians do not mix the two. I, the red-blooded American, cut my chicken into tiny bites and mixed it into the pasta. The Italian removed his chicken from his plate, ate the pasta first and then moved onto his "second dish". The only time you will find meat with pasta is if the pasta is covered with ragu bolognese sauce or if the meat is actually INSIDE the pasta (though in Romagna our pasta is always filled with cheese).
So my friends, what have we learned today? That there are some gastronomic myths about Italy that simply are not true. You will never find garlic bread with your pasta, there will be no chicken with your chicken alfredo and for heavens sake, there will be no meatballs with your spaghetti; not as long as you are eating Italian food in Italy.
If you haven't seen the movie "The Big Night" run out and rent yourself a copy tonight. It is a story about two Italian immigrant brothers who are trying to start an Italian restaurant in America. One of my favorite scenes is when a women in the restaurant tries to order spaghetti with meatballs. Of course the brothers are appalled that someone would want to eat such a thing. The best line in the movie is when Stanly Tucci's character politely explains that "Sometimes the spaghetti likes to be alone".
Though you can always find yourself a plate of spaghetti with meatballs in America, here in Italy "the spaghetti likes to be alone".













18 comments:
He's right you know and you proved it. You had to butcher your chicken and toss your food around on the plate. However, I hear that in the deep south there are places that do serve the polpette with the pasta and that's how it got to the US. And then there are lots of pastas that do have pancetta, speck, guanciale or prosciutto in them, as foreign vegetarians are unhappy to discover! Italians do eat french fries with pizza, too. Italians are not consistent.
OK, your very sweet baby birthday post is done and appreciated. Now, what does a person have to do to get a history lesson around here?
Carlos mum makes a delicious pasta al Forno with tiny meatballs in it. But one dish that I never have never understood is Pasta e patate. WHat is the point of it?
Hey what do the Italians know about Italian cooking anyway??????
I did a similar thing/ When I first moved to Italy I served my husband chicken parmagiana over spaghetti. He was horrified to say the least.
Hey Cyn, I'll take the my pasta with Ragu a la Cyndi...like we had for lunch when I came to visit. That was delish!
I have always wanted to see that movie! Philistine - another word I have heard along with Puritan. hehehe
Yeah we dont even keep meat in our freezer much anymore. If we want meat we buy it, then cook it. I thought I would miss it a lot but really dont =) still love it though. hehe
Thanks for the funny post!
Oh - looks like will be spring for me to move. gonna figure it out more end of the year. at the very least, expect a date with me come March or April =)
by the way - the fact that your Italian picked the chicken out of the pasta made me laugh! only an Italian. hehehe
Is that a young Marc Anthony in the movie?
ciao
stacy
Cute post Cyndi! I didn't know that about the meatballs until we moved here and I couldn't find it on a menu anywhere! But I still think it's a wonderful "Italian" dish!
Nicki,
When I first told Jim I was going to make pasta e patate for dinner his answer was: "WHAT? Pasta with potatoes? Are you crazy? It doesn't make sense!". But as stubborn as I am I made it anyway and to his surprise he loved, loved, loved it!!! He asked me to make it again a few days later.
I am from the south and the only time I mix pasta with meatballs is when I make lasagna napoletana, which includes: ragu', mozzarella, very tiny fried meatballs, hard boiled eggs (chopped), ricotta and salsiccia (saute' the meat of a few sausages in a pan with a spoon of olive oil and half a glass of white wine).
Dora
Judith- I will get a history post up for you asap. I have meaning to do for some time (as I love to write about history). Jackie and I took a trip to Urbino two weeks ago, maybe I will just have to write about a little known Duke from those parts. Of course September was Dante month.... ps. I am up for that get together, how about you?
Niki- Never had meatballs in my pasta al forno, but I would love to try it sometime.
Mom- Right on!
Jane-Live and learn, right?
Deb- Just made a batch this week. I must say it is good! My Italian nephews even like it better than their Mom's! I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks!
Stacy- You HAVE to go out and see it. I found it on tv once by mistake and fell in love with it. Really a cute movie and yes, that IS Marc Anthony (the singer NOT the Roman). Good eye!
Kim- If the Italians can put french fries and hot dogs on a pizza and then call it "Pizza Americana",then I can throw meatballs into my pasta (and I will)!
Dora- I have only ever had lasagna Bolognese, but yours sounds wonderful! The next time you are on this side of the pond, can you come over and teach me? PS. How are you?
Cyn
Interesting post. You have shared with me things I had no idea of before now.
I would love to have some Italian recipes, though...
Ha, ha, this is so true. I mainly prepare Italian style meals here so no chicken on pasta! However, one thing that I cannot give up is spaghetti with meatballs! My Bologna-born husband just has to put up with them.
Cyndi, you forgot to mention no cheese with seafood. The first time I was traveling in Italy with my aunt she told me about that but said she liked it anyway so still asked for it. At one restaurant the waiter flat out refused to give her the cheese so she borrowed some from a neighboring table. After that I learned to just play by the rules. No cheese with seafood, no cappuccino after breakfast time, and well, I was never really attached to spaghetti and meatballs anyway. Still my Italian roommate said that everything I cooked was "strano . . . ma buono." Everything.
Mizmell- I will have to work on the recipe thing. I am not a real good cook though and the things I do make, I tend to make by just throwing stuff together. Next time I make ragu, I will try to measure things out and then I post the recipe later.
Cath- So your husband is from Bologna? What a great city and THE best place to eat in all of Italy. Bologna is our second home, that is where we always go to shop on the weekends.
Sara- I prefer NO SEAFOOD on my cheese please. I didn't know you could put cheese on it (because I don't eat food) but once you menitoned it, I thought "yea, I never seen Danilo eat cheese on his seafood dishes". As for the "no cappuccino after breakfast rule", I break it all the time. If I feel hungery, the cappuccino helps to fill the hole with all that warm milk. I always joke at our local bar and say "Hey I'm American, I have it anytime I want". However, Danilo has a puccio once in a while in the afternoons. I figure if it good for him, it is good for me. Of course, he is Romangolo (hehehehehe)! I always have to laugh when a friend is visiting and orders a cappuccino after a really big meal, that is just too much. Once I swear the waiter even rolled his eyes!
Cyn
Cyn
Great post! My husband's aunt sometimes serves meatballs with pasta, but the rest of the family thinks that's eccentric. I've never heard of anyone else around here (province of Caserta) doing it so I guess it really is just qualcosa sua.
Once I made macaroni and cheese as a side dish and put it on the plate with some meat and a couple of contorni and my husband wanted to know what the pasta was doing there and why there was so little of it. Even after I explained it was a side like the contorni, he insisted on eating all of it first. I decided not to play with his mind anymore and now all pasta stays away from meat unless it's covered with ragu.
I can assure you that if you visit the Teramo province you will see plenty of meatballs (e.g., http://www.agritour.te.it/agriturismoivaccari.htm). This may be the area in Italy from which the American-style meatball and spaghetti dishes were derived.
Casale in Abruzzo
casale.net
It's a funny thing but true. Though I did prepare a chicken pasta dish for friends and they liked it! Even had second helpings to prove it. They are the exception, I'm sure. What I don't get is why you can put meat on top of polenta but not on pasta?
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